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Old 07-03-2009, 04:38 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Sageofmyoubokuzan, so you mean that when some one die from disease and age the oppenent din't beat him. So you are saying Naruto Din't beat Pein "Starving, and he din't kill him" . No one really won in this fight.
Yes that is exactly what I mean because even though Sasuke was the one who was still alive at the end of the fight it wasn't him that ended up killing Itachi in the end it was the disease and what ended up killing Nagato was using Gedo Mazo and releasing all the tailed beasts so neither of them beat their respective opponents and they actually got kind of lucky that they lived through it even though both Naruto and Sasuke are very powerful.
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:17 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Yes that is exactly what I mean because even though Sasuke was the one who was still alive at the end of the fight it wasn't him that ended up killing Itachi in the end it was the disease and what ended up killing Nagato was using Gedo Mazo and releasing all the tailed beasts so neither of them beat their respective opponents and they actually got kind of lucky that they lived through it even though both Naruto and Sasuke are very powerful.
I don't think it matters, I mean no, he didn't land a killing blow, but that isn't really required I guess. Basically, Itachi died because of Sasuke. Sasuke realized this, and when he found out the truth, the guilt must have activated it. Presumably, something similar happened to Kakashi, maybe when Rin died he felt responsible somehow and that did it.

After all, Itachi said you have to kill your best friend, but that's not the real requirement, it's just one way to reach the conditions. If you can kill them and not feel any remorse, they weren't really your best friend, were they? In the end, there has to be a actual cause to activate it.. Most likely an emotional one. Or put it this way, MS doesn't just magically activate just like that, you have to take something away from the experience..
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:37 AM   #53 (permalink)
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I'm not sure if you can proove that Itachi transplanted 'somehow' anything into Sasuke but Amaterasu.



Itachi was going blind, Kakashi stated a few times that he's going blind, that's why he hates to use MS. And we don't know if Madara's brother was going blind because we barely know anything about him.



Yes, he had the choice to do so, as Madara asked him but yet he didn't do it because Itachi is precious to him and he doesn't want to end up like someone as Madara. However, I believe he will soon transplant the eyes, because he can't stand the blindness anymore.


But there's something he know, and it's a fact, prooved and impossible to argue against: Sasuke is going blind. It's just dumb to argue over it.
I have some question for you.

Number 1:When and where did Kakashi stated that he was going blind?Can you show me in the manga where he said that because I don't recall Kakashi saying that.I am more than sure that Kakashi said he doesn't like using MS because it takes too much chakra.

Number 2:You said that Sasuke can't stand the blindness anymore.Can you show me in the manga when did Sasuke said he was going blind,and he could not stand it anymore?I am 100% sure Sasuke haven't said anything about going blind.

Number 3: How can you be sure is a fact that Sasuke is going blind,proved and imposible to arque against.Sasuke haven't said anything about going blind.Do yo mean it because of this.

Naruto 417 page 09 | One Manga

That could mean anything.It could mean that he overused his new sharigan,or it could be something related to Susanoo.
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:45 AM   #54 (permalink)
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or hes eyes hurt when he uses that one move that makes them bleed.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:16 AM   #55 (permalink)
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I have some question for you.

Number 1:When and where did Kakashi stated that he was going blind?Can you show me in the manga where he said that because I don't recall Kakashi saying that.I am more than sure that Kakashi said he doesn't like using MS because it takes too much chakra.
No where... I believe the "he" in that sentence refers to Itachi. Naruto 257 page 09 | One Manga
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Number 2:You said that Sasuke can't stand the blindness anymore.Can you show me in the manga when did Sasuke said he was going blind,and he could not stand it anymore?I am 100% sure Sasuke haven't said anything about going blind.

Number 3: How can you be sure is a fact that Sasuke is going blind,proved and imposible to arque against.Sasuke haven't said anything about going blind.Do yo mean it because of this.

Naruto 417 page 09 | One Manga

That could mean anything.It could mean that he overused his new sharigan,or it could be something related to Susanoo.
Well, besides the fact that all MS users go blind unless they have EMS?
In fact, I'm surprised it's happening so soon, Itachi's eyes didn't originally bleed when he used his MS, just near the end of his life when he was going blind..
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:42 AM   #56 (permalink)
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OMFG Dude, *Grabs a gund and puts it to his brain*
Seriously are you blind...? Told you MS gets you blind...
When I give you manga pages OPEN THEM...
You can't deny Kishis own work...

It's like coming up to me and telling me that my name isn't Filip...
I think this is pointless to argue since it seems you don't read my posts

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I have a question for you.How do you think Sasuke obtained his MS? I give you the answer right away.

It wasn't from killing his brother,but it was from Itachi transplating somehow his jutsus into Sasuke eyes.Also,I don't think all of the people who obtain the MS goes blind.We haven't seen Kakashi going blind because of his sharigan.Also,as far as I know Madara little brother wasn't going blind.Probably,not everyone who awakens a MS goes blind.
Quick and simple answer: There are many ways of obtaining your MS...
And everyone who obtains MS eventyaly goes blind:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/386/07/
(read that page carefully: That is the inevitable fate of all who obtain the MS)

As I said in my previous post, itachi implanted a one time Amaterasu
in Sasukes eyes. That is confirmed by Madara himself...
And when he used that one time Amaterasu he had Itachi's MS on his eye...

This proves that he doesn't have Itachi's eyes...
And he doesn't want to translate them for now..
Naruto 403 page 17 | One Manga


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Do you think that Sasuke is so stupid that he is not going to transplant his brother eyes into him knowing that if he keeps his current sharigan he is going to go blind.Click on this link below.

Naruto 403 page 17 | One Manga

As you can see Sasuke could have taken his brother eyes if he wanted,but he did not.Do you think that Sasuke is dumb enough as to think."Oh fuck, I will go blind,but I am such a stupid person that I won't transplant my brothers eyes into myself to avoid going blind."
Yes I do think that, for now.. Everything he's done until now
was stupid, selfish and self absorbed... After he realizes his stupid mistakes
only then he will take itachi's eyes, because he'll become like him
and will want to see what Itachi wanted to see...

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I have some question for you.

Number 1:When and where did Kakashi stated that he was going blind?Can you show me in the manga where he said that because I don't recall Kakashi saying that.I am more than sure that Kakashi said he doesn't like using MS because it takes too much chakra.
You are right here, Kakashi isn't going blind... Do you know why...?
Simple answer yet again: He isn't an Uchiha and his eyes were transplanted...
I think he's got a Partial EMS...

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Number 2:You said that Sasuke can't stand the blindness anymore.Can you show me in the manga when did Sasuke said he was going blind,and he could not stand it anymore?I am 100% sure Sasuke haven't said anything about going blind.
Hehe This proves my point that you don't read my posts...
Here for the THIRD time.. He had blurry vision, a sign of going blind..
Naruto 417 page 09 | One Manga

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Number 3: How can you be sure is a fact that Sasuke is going blind,proved and imposible to arque against.Sasuke haven't said anything about going blind.Do yo mean it because of this.

Naruto 417 page 09 | One Manga

That could mean anything.It could mean that he overused his new sharigan,or it could be something related to Susanoo.
Hehe, you proved my point, he did overuse his MS so he is going blind...
And it might be related to susano, cuz after all wiki quote:
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In Japanese mythology, Susano’o, the powerful storm of Summer, is the brother of Amaterasu, the goddess of the sun, and of Tsukuyomi, the god of the moon. All three were spawned from Izanagi, when he washed his face clean of the pollutants of Yomi, the underworld. Amaterasu was born when Izanagi washed out his left eye, Tsukuyomi was born from the washing of the right eye, and Susano’o from the washing of the nose.
But I doubt it, because as you can see, it's not eye related....

EDIT: BTW For those that are interested...
When you obtain an EMS, your MS and the MS from the other person merge..
I said that in the previous post but didn't confirm it well with a page:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/386/06/

Here you can see both Madara's and Izuna's MS...
If you look at MAdara's eyes a bit closer you'll
notice that his MS back then isn't the same as his EMS form.
Here is his EMS:
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Wow, Filip, get super personal with this staff. Like a lithle girl that hate Sasuke.
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Okay that's it, I've had it with you
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