[Deadalus]

Originally Posted by Rikudou

All im gonna say is that pein is the strongest ninja so far in the story. And if he fought against anyone else i think he will win also.

Well yes hes strong.

[SaburoRaiden]

Dont call this comment lame or anything but I going to say what I think.The fact that Pain kept calling Jiriya ''Sensie'' and it was really obivious that he was a fomer student of Jiriya.Plus the fact that he got kind of emotional when he found ot he had to go after Naruto has got me thinking.This may be a supper lame theroy but at this point I am considering anything and everything.Could Pain be the 4th Hokage/Narutos farther.The 4th was a student of Jiriya so I was just putting everything together even though it does not add up in every way like why would the 4th join or start the Akatski clan and how did he get the rinnegan (wrong spelling).Tell me what you think.

[Naruto Sama]

Nope, there is no way that Pain is naruto's father/hokage. Its because jiraiya himself said that the 6 paths of pain's bodies are all ninja's he has seen before, and the 4th hokages body wasnt in them. Also, the 4 th hokage was a really good man, and he respected and loved jjiraiya like a father, there is no way he would do such a thing to konoha jiraiya and naruto himself.

[Hokage]

+ the fact that the 4th is dead, and probably buried in konoha. since he was able to give his last words Im guessing he was probably found half dead after sealing the kyuubi and then died after a talk with the 3rd

[Thunderbox]

Originally Posted by Rikudou

All im gonna say is that pein is the strongest ninja so far in the story. And if he fought against anyone else i think he will win also.

Naruto is gonna kick his little 6 way ass. Cuz he's the main character
Naruto eventually beat him with the sage power, but that's not for the moment.
But Pein his time will come

[Uchiha]

The Strongest Ninja so far is Uchiha Madara and then Pein , because Pein gets Orders from Madara and i dont think he will get Orders from ninjas that they are weaker than him , plus Madara got alooooot of experience and remmeber when we learn that he moves at the speed of light , Madara wont die unless we see naruto+sasuke fighting together and Naruto will kill Pein for his revenge sooner or later .

[SaburoRaiden]

Thats why I said it did not all add up but like I said I am considering everything.And all we have is more questions than answers.I am thinking that the code Jiriya wrote on the frog was possibly Pains true identy.

[beastym67]

I'd have to agree with Uchiha when he says Madara is the stongest. We're talking about the Uchiha that rivaled the 1st hokage. He's over 100 years old but he's immortal and I'm guessing has eternal youth since he can still move. He's known to have a space/time jutsu that surpasses even the great 4th hokage. Plus he has the EMS. Put all those skills and knowledge together and you've got a bad man.

PS: anyone else notice that the only two people in the whole history of Naruto that could fully control bijuu's lived at the exact same time?(the first and Madara)

[Hokage]

Pain and madara are going to be a victim of plot no jutsu, simple as that.

and btw: madara could controll the kyuubi, while the 1st could controll all biyuu, and had them as pets. I doubt madara was capable of controlling all of them.

[Freemasonry]

K, so this might be tangential, or it might even have been covered already, but I didn't read all six pages, so forgive me:
The message, the real one isn't among them refers to the real body of pain as nagato just not present or what does it mean? Rather, since it's nature isn't explicitly known yet, what do you think it means?