[beastym67]

Madara is older than 60 years old because he fought the 1st when konaha was founded and the 1st trained the 3rd and the 3rd trained Jiraiya. I think he is immortal or something due to his sharingan transplant from his brother.

[Narusuke Uzuchiha]

madara has eternal mangekyou then agan pein has rinnegan so its hard to decide whos stronger

[roseboy64]

Madara's at least 100. Something was mentioned about Konoha being founded 80 years ago when he was talking to Sasuke.

[the_gallant_jiraiya]

yea, hes def. waaaay older than 60 lol.
I'm gonna go with Madara

[Erosennin900]

My money is on Pein at this point as we have seen more from him, though its too early to tell since we have yet to see them both get serious.

[XxMinatioNamikazexX]

Madara would win hands down. And I would guess Madara is in between 120 and 130 since Konoha is over 100 years old.

[smutzy]

who ever put the idea out of how the rinnegan works, what 1 sees they all see, that is a very good point. if oneof them suffered from a genjutsu with an eye to eye technique would they all suffer?

[XxMinatioNamikazexX]

Not necessarily. Every one of Pein's bodies is dead already. Pein would probably be able to cut off one body from the others if it suffered from a genjutsu.

[beastym67]

I'm going with Smutzy since he finally mentioned about the eye techniques in my first post. If he used the MS technique that starts with a T, I forget it's name, he would be trapped in an instant since it only lasts a few seconds.

[XxMinatioNamikazexX]

I think a good example of when the eye technique does not work is when Itachi used the eye technique on Kakashi's shadow clone. Ya the technique worked but it did not have any effect on the real Itachi because there was no direct connection.